Memoirs.....Musings of a sales guy at heart.....
Episode 42...
Geoscope journey & my 44 years of association with alcohol industry...
Yes, the brands world class and powerful too.....Geoscope is committed to make the lips smile when they taste our brands but thanks to the entry barriers imposed in different forms in different states and also the un-professional attitudes of some of our trade partners has slowed down our progression. Barriers are important so long it just ensures quality of the product, stop financial mismanagements and fly by night operators. But if the barriers are imposed to just support a select few and only the biggies, these barriers have to be lifted immediately to make the filed a level playing one. If you draw parallels to the FMCG industry, can anyone stop another detergent powder entering the market....Could HLL stop Nirma...they fought them tooth and nail in the market....because thats where the consumers decide what to buy based on many factors....remember the story of the 'shampoo in a sachet'....it was a Cuddalore (TN) a business novice started and made a big success of the same...finally another Biggie bought this brand paying huge amount....small timers can make it big and remain small depending only upon their vision in FMCG and other fields...but in alcohol industry, the government of the respective states decide...isn't it unfair? If any of you who happened to go thru this and have some connection with the 'power that be' pl pass it on to them...Am ready to convince them why the policies have to be re-written.
1) Tamil Nadu: The local bottlers have their say in everything except honoring the letter and spirit of the agreement which they have entered with brand owners. TASMAC goes by the text book which was written some 3 decades back....this has to be re-looked. TN should open up the market to the national players which would give the TN consumers to exercise their choice and have world class brands at an affordable price. Currently there is none....Since TASMAC insist on a letter by the brand owner to the bottler consenting to bottle their brands as a first step to get the ball rolling in terms of approval, the payments towards the supplies of these brands which do not belong to the bottler should be paid to the brand companies directly. This would pave the way for better behaviour in terms of honoring the commitments by the local bottler obviating legal route for collecting the dues from them as happened in our case and many others in this market. Also TN should re look at their tax components...probably this is the only state which still has VAT on alcohol. For example, if the billing price of a brand to TASMAC is 100, the end consumer price is 400....this is 300% margin to the state run TASMAC......compared this to an open market like Maharashtra.....7% WS margin and 10% retail margin. In FMCG its quite similar.......in KTK where the WS is run by government corporation, the WS margin is less than 10%. Only in Kerala the government levies more than 50% as their margin apart from duties and taxes.......and with almost nil investment.....this is what has to be discussed by the manufacturers and the state run corporations and come to some kind of understanding on the way the margins are kept and also involve CII for some kind of transparency.
2) UT of Pondicherry: As mentioned in my earlier blog, Pondy/KKL and Mahe-their USP is the cheaper MRP compared to neighboring states...there are local consumers who primarily drink middle ranged and the tourists...for the outsiders Pondy is no more cheap....everything in Pondy is expensive now...right from food to acco and booze....how the government can expect growth in tourism and revenue? As a tourist I dont find the price of booze attractive at all.....and the 20% tax on MRP towards covid tax....how pathetic the thought itself? The officer who gave this idea to the CM has to be blamed for this and turning this lovely market to a 'cheap' liquor haven.....Also restriction on so many things connected with alcohol.....land registration and revenue from alcohol are the only thing the state has any control and rest they expect the center to fund.....and they have started losing on alcohol....thats the fact......the administration should take cognisance of this and make the corrections to gain back the uniqueness of Pondy.....
3) Andamans....this is a small market compared to the rest but last year the administrator of this island has increased the duties and taxes and the prices of all the brands shot up....this has resulted in consumers down trading to cheap alcohol....what else you expect?
3) Karnataka....the government do not interfere here as Seshan the officer who has designed the policy and running of KSBCL has done a remarkable job making all the stake holders equally happy. If your brands can sell KSBCL buys and pays you after sale.....as the entire retail is managed by the private.....but in the recent past and again last month the MRPs were revised thus pushing the consumers to trade down....another great market going the Kerala and TN way......
4) AP....lesser spoken the better. The only way AP can redeem is short term prohibition and after that open up and make the private to run the business....APBCL should be wound up.
5) Telangana: WS by government and retail by private. Works on brand pull and huge discounts...if you are small just do not even think of this market.
6) Kerala: One of the worst markets in the country for any new entrant. The taxes are very high, making the MRP of premium brands unreachable to common consumers....the entry barriers support the local bottlers. Cheap liquor and cheap liquor and cheap liquor. The common liquor consumers do not know anything about what they are drinking. They are drinking due to habits and to get drunk. And they think by drinking brandy they wont fall sick....what a myth? And all cheap stuff...nothing but colored arrack.....successive governments have failed to address the unaffordable prices of the premium brands thus depriving god's own countrymen of enjoying good alcoholic beverages.
7) Delhi: The policy of Delhi is very unique and archaic. The Delhi excise policy helps only the biggies or those who have deep pockets.. as to enter this market, you have to fulfil lots of conditions that includes bond, bond fees, registration fees et al. Also they have imposed conditions that every category has a minimum level of volumes that brand should have achieved over a period if you have step in to this market. This is complete nonsense as it prohibits new companies. The exemption given is for imported brands and Bottled in India scotches. Even if someone comes out with a world class brand and picks Delhi to test market, forget it.....and Delhi has no infrastructure when it comes to alcohol. There is no local production of any raw materials and local bottling units. All the brands which are sold in Delhi comes from other states and Delhi happily allowing those brands and filling their coffers....This has to change. Also the retail trade is run by different government owned corporations.....this has been the age old practice and very archaic... Why should the corporations sell alcohol? And the consumers, most often, do not get what they want.....and there are brands in Delhi which sell huge volumes but will not find any space in other markets....
Most of the markets in India have some entry barriers just to protect the local bottlers....
Its time alcohol is brought under GST and from Kanyakumari to Kashmir and across the country there should be only one policy and the business should be given to private to run. Government should only keep strict controls and restrict the sale of alcohol and strictly impose the timings. When the government is involved in running the business their objective is to increase the revenue and hence they turn a blind eye to many things. No one wants to talk about alcohol as it would create a huge upheaval and politicised. If majority of the citizens say ban alcohol, lets do it but not selectively. Drinking is certainly bad for health but its a necessary social evil and hence there has to be strict vigilance by the government and also heavy penalties if someone faults...this includes drink n drive....if someone is caught driving after consuming alcohol, whoever it could be, it should be straight imprisonment....minimum of 10 days.....
Folks, I joined Herbertsons on 2nd November 1979. 43 years in this industry. Just 3 companies. I must have committed lots of errors and mistakes but havent done anything wilfully. Never ever taken away the distribution from one and given to another for any considerations. In some cases, in hindsight, I feel I should not have changed the distribution but at that time I felt it would be better for the company and did whatever I had to. Also at times, I have given distribution to non deserving persons due to pressure from the top. There are times I should have taken a stand but didnt. One such example is during IDV time when my boss wanted to increase the MRP of Green Label on par with McD whiskey, which was at that time perceived as premium and Green Label was at par with DSP, OC and Bagpiper....USL agreed to increase but last minute they didnt do it for Bagpiper....I told my boss not to fall prey but when he was stubborn, I meekly surrendered. The other one was the fiasco in AP with Green Label. We should have taken baby steps when we launched Green and tested the waters. Also for Telangana given the promotership to a local man instead a person in Vijayawada. This stupidity cost the fall of Green Label in AP.
I have quit Geoscope on 1st of April 23 as I felt that I should finally and fully retire from active business and allow younger guys to head and take the company forward. I have to do lots of convincing of my major partner but finally he saw the rationale and agreed.
My high on Geoscope is the power brands we had created. None of us, self, Sudeep, Krithi and Vishal had any product development background but we have created world class brands both in terms of looks and content by our sheer passion. We took only the name 'Hobsons' from Bardinet but the entire presentation is ours. The strategy behind each of our brands is impeccable. Maker's Delight is really classic. The blend and the presentation. I hope the new team keep it as it is and do not get in to any make overs.
I would not like to do anything with alcohol any more neither with a fee nor free.....
I would like to thank those who had shaped me up and also played a role in where am today.
1) I was with Detergents India selling Regal detergent cakes based at Trichy. I used to stay at Everest Lodge on Salai road, and one day I got a PP call on Gnanam stores, a kirana stores under my lodge. My brothers wife called me to inform that I got an interview card from Herbertsons. Later I realised that my brother RL Ravichandran put in a word to Sunil Abraham( an ex colleague of my bro at Averys) who joined HL at that time as ARM under KP Tomy and they called me for an interview. There were around 10 guys at the interview and Tomy asked me to sell a pen to him. I did a good job and got selected with a consolidated salary of 500.....So thanks to my brother and Abraham for this.
2) In HL, it was learning all the time....Even the competitors agree that Herbertsons was the best company in Liquor for a long time...even when it merged and they created USL people who were from other parts of UB used to say great about Herbertsons...thats because in HL we managed both consumer brands and alcohol which gave us so much of knowledge on managing the shelf space, merchandising and visibility....I was very raw but took my job very seriously. RS Rajendran who was my first boss was a very difficult guy but he had a soft corner for me and he helped me to explore other markets than those which were under me. Abraham had a special liking for me and worked with me in my markets number of times. Shankaran who succeeded RSR, was also very kind and supportive. KP Tomy another gem of a person. Very relaxed and nice. Then came Navratan Dugar.....lots and lots of learning. One thing which I follow even today is when I eat I do not waste anything. Even in weddings I only take what I can eat and leave my plate clean and empty. This Dugar practiced and I picked it up from him. My team in HL across the country. Every single one of them. My bosses in Herbertsons. Every single one of them. I had mentioned in my earlier posts many and thanked them too. When I got married, which was in Sep 86, and the moment I joined back after my holidays, Tomy told me that I am transferred to Kerala as ASM. My wife that time didnt want to go back to Kerala as she just shifted from there. I requested Tomy whether he could look at me for any other states and he immediately changed the place and given me AP (undivided) which was far bigger and better market than Kerala. This happened to be a turning point in my career. When DR took charge of sales n marketing in HL and during his maiden visit to Hyderabad, he told me to be ready to move back to Chennai....Naaz Rovshen (wonderful soul...stylish and very understanding), Deepak Desai, Rodney, Gerry in HR, Sanjit, Amar Sinha, Yatin, Luthra and VK Arora....Ashok Capoor another lovely boss....every one played a role. In Bombay I was a novice and ECB was a great help for me then along with Ram and Sebastian in our Regional office at Parel. In HO Vidya, Amita Arora and Mrs George......Kandan, Raghavan, Dwarak, KGR, Vivek, Mano, Guna and our dear Kalyan and Haran. JK was recruited by me and in TN team...JK is from Karnataka and his Tamil was just basic that time....and he has travelled with me till my Diageo days....Tomy transferred Mohandas from Kerala to Salem as HQ....and he did a fabulous job in Salem with his Mallish interspersed with Tamil...Aditya Gupta an MT at that time based at CBE...EJ Thomas in Kerala. HL regional office in Chennai..Sheigar, Murthy, Babu and Anbu and our beloved Bammal Shankar..Dattta the person to go to...his understanding of excise no one could match...and those days without a local unit in place, the supplies were from outside the state...Datta took the trouble of managing the entire logistics and even spent time in the borders of AP and Odisha to ensure smooth sailing of our trucks...AL Paramesh...another gem...none of us would forget his wedding...it was such a fun affair...and he had the guts to start his own at a very young age...he managed retail stores in Kumbakonam in partnership.....Ashraf during my earlier days in HL and Noor Mohmed.....Ashraf, I think, got us this gem of a guy Noor Mohamed...I am blessed to have had such wonderful team members.....And with most of them am still in touch.....The MSR group in AP. I wont forget the hospitality of Subbarama Reddy fondly known as MSR-1.....and his brother Sudhakar (MSR 2).....Madusudan Reddy(SMR), BSN Reddy, Sundar Rama Reddy, Suresh and Sudhakar. Also Vivek Reddy who was the owner of Pushkara Enterprises, Vizag.....It was always fun working with them and also the undivided AP market where both WS and Retail were managed by private individuals...it was tough due to the demands by the trade and also the stiff competition with in the group and outside but it was real fun and enjoyable. My team in HL AP...Jacob, Raju and Murthy with Reddy and Shanthi Kumar....Shanthi Kumar was very helpful and even drove me around in my fiat car even to outstations.....CHS, Satyapal, Rajaram Reddy, Prasad, Prasanna, Vikram, Eswaran and Guru in Nellore....great team but the problem that time in AP was the power our distributors wielded with our big boss...
I should also mention here Shivkumar Reddy the son in law of MSR 1. One of the finest professional I have ever met. We have been friends for ages now and it is because of him we got entry in Balaji Pondy to bottle. Someone who is always there to give inputs and a call away.
My HL days in other markets especially in Maharashtra....to start with Deepak of Candy and his lovely brothers Kishore and Suraj...Prakash of Pancharatna, Ghansham from U Nagar, Deepu and his cousins in Nagpur...Uday Bakshi from Sholapur...Mahesh Mehta from Indore, Bhatias from the same place.....Kerkars from Goa.....we were small in Maharashtra but this is one market where we had solid distributors....From our team, Deepak Katty, Rajinder Kalra, MS Chavan, Ravi Nambiar, Nagappa....Kailash Thole..great team....
I think HL pioneered in terms of conducting theme based regional conferences....and we always travelled together...whether I was in Chennai or Hyderabad or even Bombay.....even the first conference in IDV, I travelled with my team by train to Delhi from Bombay....And I think this helped us to forge the camaraderie...and that bonding still continues....
Its not that we didnt have fights...especially in 1983, when they split TN in to two and made myself and Kanda incharge of a region each...there was so much of under current and healthy competition between us....and I was very immatured also to pick up unwanted and unwarranted issues...but those things today we discuss and laugh it off....and one more thing is that our friends outside of our trade and company have become friends of the team...for example my friend Raman he is well known to the entire HL gang and also some of the trade partners....
IDV-Diageo....starting with Deepak Roy, who found something in me and instrumental in all my moves across and my progression....After that Amar Raj Singh....Sudeep who joined after a month of me joining in IDV and the journey still continues....Tony George the first HR guy, Debasish Roy (a great friend and HR professional), Roy Joseph and my buddy Nalin Garg....Mahesh Iyer, Rodney and Sridhar Iyer..Sridhar's rise to be the CEO of Pfizer India is an amazing success story..from just accounting and finance to managing one of the biggest Pharma companies...Salutes....Dr. Puri, John George and Nitin in mfg....AshwinDeo.....Sanjit..Aparna, Vibuthi..Santosh Kaniker...Darpan who was managing the Smirnoff portfolio at that time....Abhijit....Nitin Pitale, Ashish Monga, Rustom, Vipin, Dheeraj shetty, Sandeep damdhare, Rajkumar my CSD guy, Vikas Bhatia, Rahul Kashyap(another great find by me), Jasraj, T. Raghuram-he was in AP then to Kerala and to MP)....KGR, JKK, Shankar Iyer( another great find by me...he has scaled new heights in his professional life), Uthappa (heading 3 states for PRG now), Ratnakar (running a distribution company), Kannan (this guy is from Madurai TN and he not only learnt Kannada fast but also grew up in stature...today he is heading TI and made MH a million cases in KTK market) from Blr, Satyapal in AP, CHS and Srini all from AP......Sabapathy in Pondy.....Daisy, Andria, Maria, Pervin, Sarah, Yasmin, Andria,Asha, Felicity, Maurin, Jyothi in Blr office...Shanthi, Mukesh Verma, Arun Aditya in Delhi, John Rodrigues in Bombay office (a real asset).....and in DxB, Pramod Menon, Syama, Venkoban and Pradeep and all the bosses from UK...especially Ron Anderson, Simon and Ivan.....my lovely dealers in UAE.....AnE, MMI, Mohandas, Thampi, Bhatias and everyone in ME and Africa.....my IDV/Diageo distributors in India....Bhupi @Bombay, Pappu at U Nagar, Dhannu @Kholapur, Mehrab in Pune, Sunil of DV in Nagpur, Ananda Rao at Blr and his excellent team, RR in Pondy, Sarathy in AP and later Satyapal, KS Rajagopal, Satheesh, Harikumar, Sebastian, Jayaram @Mahe, BPS in Delhi and Punjab....Mac in Goa and also Kerkers....and my lovely team members through out my journey in IDV/Diageo....right from top to the bottom.....Sunil Lulla one of the finest marketing brains I have ever interacted with.....though his stint was short with IDV, he did create an impact and was instrumental in bringing the 'fun' element in IDV...And also we got some wonderful management trainees, who developed in to great managers...in Gaurav, Ashu and in finance Atul...the finance team in IDV/Diageo was a very hard working lot....irrespective of whom they were working with....Roland as the admin guy....never a dull moment....And in W&M, Nick Garland and the hero of WnM, Richard Patterson....
The Geoscope journey.....Rajshekar to start with....he was with USL based at Blr and was my neighbor, in Bombay....an ex Shaw Wallace guy and known him right from my HL Chennai days... and when I sought his help to get us connected with suppliers, he immediately took the phone and got us the leads....Choudhry of Glassex and Anil Mehta of Jai Glass. We wanted to develop labels and gift cartons and I approached my old HL contact Nishikant Shirodkar of Manohar packaging and he put me to his young and dynamic SIL, Aditya Patwardhan...this guy is an amazing person..everything at finger tips and very hard working..he was great in coming out with ideas and improvisations and show us number of options without getting irritated...his team in his factory Goa....we created all our labels and gift boxes with him and they are all world class...Ramrai from Guala India...he didnt treat us as small player and went out of the way to give us our small requirements...We had issues with our glass suppliers due to our small runs but Anil Bhai helped us thru Samyu Glasses for quite some time and also with his Colombo contacts...Haldyn Glass..they are continuing with Geoscope...Srinivas of AGI ....all our suppliers, Fairmax for their CnF....and Maran of MGM for honoring my request and giving us space in his unit to bottle..without his consent that time, we probably would have dropped Geoscope...A big thanks to Maran and MGM...Darpan for her initial association with us and also at a later stage whenever we sought her help...Kunal from Mumbai for developing few of our brands, Prabhat Barik for XO and Maker's...Menon for Wassup and LR whiskey.....Saju of Gemini for his fantastic never say die attitude, our distributors in South starting with Anand of Happy-Pondy, CS of Pondy and Ramdoss....Selvam of KKL, Senthil and Babu of DD, Suresh of GNS....Jairam and Santosh of WC Mahe, Venu and Sujit of Sastha Mahe, Krishnan of Mahe and George of Thirumal, Madhu from Yenam, Satyapal our dear Telangana and AP guy, Dwarak who spent some time with us managing AP, Rajeev, Jai Mohan, Subrat and MN Sridhar our start up team.... Prakash one of our oldest, Sundar, Suresh Babu, Ashok Kumar, Kamalesh, Amit Muthappa, Koteeswar Rao, Koteeswar, Kumaran, Vinay Patil, Dhamu.....Ayyakkannu....and our bottlers...Balaji Pondy...SAFL team, SNJ team, MBDL team....and all those who had contributed in some way in getting us in to the business.....Senguttuvan and Varadharajan....And our partner Bardinet...Neil and Jairaj for saying yes to us to bottle in Gemini....this was the second unit we started after SAFL in TN....My friends who stood with me thick and thin and always saying nice words about our brands and promoting in which ever way and extending help in getting us leads and contacts and above all motivating and encouraging us... my journey in this industry started on 2nd Nov 1979 and its 44 years now......This journey is something I cherished every minute and every incident......this industry has given me everything and thankfully I didnt get addicted to any of the highs this industry comes with....thank god for this...
I have thanked all those who came in to mind but probably missed many but its not by design....my wife Jeyanthi and my son Rithvic have also been great support to me by not cribbing about my long travel and erratic times...(when on market visits everything else is forgotten).
I have to also mention here Vishal Jaiswal, his brother Vaibhav and their entire family for being so nice to me and to Sudeep. His team members Vinod, Nikhil and Jayant Patil....Vishal really takes care of his team and the team is very supportive and loyal to him....
Self, Sudeep and Krithi we bonded well and are still great friends...Krithi, as mentioned earlier started his own consulting and doing great....Sudeep is heading Geoscope now and am sure Geoscope would go places soon and make it one of the top companies in this industry.....
I just wanted to capture my journey in this industry started on 2nd November 1979.....think covered most of it.....
Nothing to do with alcohol now....little bit of my Regression therapy and counselling sessions....lots of singing and travel....US trip is pending now....
I would also like to blog a lot on different things....will keep in touch and wish every one a great life....whatever you do, just enjoy doing it....
And thanks for going thru my blogs and responding with your views and comments...
Cheers and Au Revoir.....